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For the Love of Women's avatar

that’s that on culture <3

Esther Joey Diamond's avatar

Wait what?? Left is always top/giving with any kind of flagging, hankies or keys.

By the way when flagging emerged it was less about safety and more about noisy dark leather bars and clubs and cruising culture. In the 70s and 80s people who were flagging dressed in pretty obvious leather gear, so it wasn't about passing unnoticed.

Kira Deshler's avatar

you’re so right my directions got switched around. this is why i need an editor haha. love learning more about leather culture.

Esther Joey Diamond's avatar

haha you had me worried for a second - had I been communicating something quite different than I thought??!!

I'm also curious about when actual carabiners became commonly available.. in the 90s I remember using other kind of key clips (and even fashioning some out of hardware store bits and pieces) but it seemed like carabiners only came in later when people got into rock climbing?

Kira Deshler's avatar

that's a good point, i'd also like to know more about the transition between key rings, generally speaking, and carabiners. there's so little research on the topic i didn't encounter much discussion about the distinction between the two terms.

jillian's avatar

Proud owner of a Sleater-Kinney carabiner checking in here.

Kira Deshler's avatar

ahhh, love it!